He nods. "I don't think this is something that's well known, or well, y-you know, no one would be trying regular rituals. But those people, they-- they still would have been hurt. Could have, uhm, d-died. So it wasn't, uhm, t-totally useless."

This is getting rough, and he can tell Nia is reckoning with it all, so Martin tries to give a sympathetic smile. "I still think you've helped a lot of people. And that ritual, it-- it was more than one, right? Desolation and Buried? So something... something could have happened. It was better we were there."